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post Oct 4 2015, 02:53 PM
So I watched the first episode of Concrete Revolutio, or rather the first half because I had to stop. It was................... very anime to say the least. Combines mechas with magical girls, cliched dialogue, etc. Would not watch.


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post Oct 4 2015, 04:26 PM
I watched the first episode of One Punch Man today.
Very good. Now if you excuse me, I must go track down scanlations of the manga.
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post Oct 6 2015, 04:46 PM
I also watched Osomatsu-san and it's fucking hilarious. It's a redo of the only show about sextuplets, and done by the guys who did Gintama, so it's super funny.


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post Oct 30 2015, 09:07 PM
If I were to describe the premise to Heavy Object (an anime by JC Staff), I’d describe it like this.

Me: You know that part in MGS1 where you fight Rex?
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Me: That’s the entire series. Except replace Metal Gears with Technodromes. And replace killing them with Stingers with killing them by finding their weak points. And then blowing it up. And replace Snake with two considerably less badass mooks who got the REALLY short end of the stick. And there’s some really in-your-face fanservice. And the battlefield’s bigger. And also, it’s a lot less cooler than it sounds. OK, actually, it's more like that part in MGSV where you fight Sahelantropus, but you get the point.

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post Oct 31 2015, 01:51 AM
Heavy Abject's characters appear in shitty fighting games. That's all you need to know.

This season and the next at least have One-punch Man to save them. Maybe JoJo 4 will debut sooner than we think.
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post Oct 31 2015, 05:57 AM
And the fact that \heavy Object is part of the Dengeki Bunko line, which is a wasteland of pulp light novels with big boasting hits like Sword Art Online and Oreimo. Oh and the fact that Heavy Object came from the same guy who wrote those shitty Index novels too. Seriously, these light novel adaptations lately are irritating me lately with their blatant pandering and wish-fulfillment and yet, they're some of the most popular anime in Japan currently, regardless of how shitty they can get (and far from the quality of works like Spice and Wolf and Baccano sadly).

At least One Punch Man will soothe me this season...


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post Oct 31 2015, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (GreetingstoElites @ Oct 31 2015, 06:57 AM) *
And the fact that \heavy Object is part of the Dengeki Bunko line, which is a wasteland of pulp light novels with big boasting hits like Sword Art Online and Oreimo . . . they're some of the most popular anime in Japan currently, regardless of how shitty they can get (and far from the quality of works like Spice and Wolf and Baccano sadly).

Well, I mean, Dengeki Bunko is one of the most prolific light novel publishing imprints around. Even Spice & Wolf and Ryohgo Narita's body of work are included in its output. Its parent company has all but cornered the light novel market, and since it's safe to assume LNs in general are largely catered toward the young male demographic, i.e. otaku... yeah, naturally, most are probably going to be shit.

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post Nov 1 2015, 11:39 AM
I don't see anything so 'wrong' with it, it's basically like a fusion of the Harlequin Romance and Young Adult subsections of books we have out in the west. The only difference is that they presumably make enough bank that they don't have to push it via multimedia like they do in Japan; just about every anime based on a light novel or visual novel is a 30 minute/week advertisement. The market is open for them, they're paying for these anime and looking for people to go out and buy the source material out of interest.

As for supposed popularity, a lot of these series don't get second seasons or have them cancelled at some point during production. It's more or less flavour of the month stuff like everything else in current media. Does that make it good? No. But studios don't get to be choosy about what they want to animate. Otherwise they'd all end up out of business like Manglobe.


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post Nov 1 2015, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (Howlitzer @ Nov 1 2015, 11:39 AM) *
I don't see anything so 'wrong' with it, it's basically like a fusion of the Harlequin Romance and Young Adult subsections of books we have out in the west. The only difference is that they presumably make enough bank that they don't have to push it via multimedia like they do in Japan; just about every anime based on a light novel or visual novel is a 30 minute/week advertisement. The market is open for them, they're paying for these anime and looking for people to go out and buy the source material out of interest.

As for supposed popularity, a lot of these series don't get second seasons or have them cancelled at some point during production. It's more or less flavour of the month stuff like everything else in current media. Does that make it good? No. But studios don't get to be choosy about what they want to animate. Otherwise they'd all end up out of business like Manglobe.

Wait, just to be clear, is this in response to me or simply a general thing about the subject in question?


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post Nov 1 2015, 10:34 PM
General response.


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post Dec 12 2015, 01:30 PM
QUOTE (xoxjoanxox @ Oct 4 2015, 11:53 PM) *
So I watched the first episode of Concrete Revolutio, or rather the first half because I had to stop. It was................... very anime to say the least. Combines mechas with magical girls, cliched dialogue, etc. Would not watch.

It gets worse, if you can even imagine that.
And of course it gets a second season. And Gen Urobuchi joins in as a writer, because when I think of ways to fix a horribly boring piece of shit like this, I think of the guy who wrote a story where the main character's big character flaw was not lusting after his sister.
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post Dec 12 2015, 03:06 PM
Wait, that shit really happened? Damn, maybe it's for the best I don't watch anything that Gen Urobuchi's involved in. It's a shame because I'd have to miss out on the one Kamen Rider show he worked on, Gaim.


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post Dec 14 2015, 06:25 PM
QUOTE (Ratatoskr @ Dec 12 2015, 04:30 PM) *
It gets worse, if you can even imagine that.
And of course it gets a second season. And Gen Urobuchi joins in as a writer, because when I think of ways to fix a horribly boring piece of shit like this, I think of the guy who wrote a story where the main character's big character flaw was not lusting after his sister.


I don't know about that one. All I know that Gen Urobuchi has worked on is Psycho Pass (which I like), Madoka Magicia (eh), and Saya no Uta (no).


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post Dec 14 2015, 07:34 PM
Gen Urobuchi is like George Lucas he's capable of producing good work as long as he's kept in check by several actually talented people and there is severe doubt the good bits are his ideas.

He is also like Lucas in that he says extremely dumb shit in interviews


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post Dec 14 2015, 08:16 PM
Wonder if that's the reason Psycho-Pass is good.


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post Dec 15 2015, 12:32 AM
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Wonder if that's the reason Psycho-Pass is good.


Seeing how this is the same person who made Saya No Uta. I can say with absolute confidence that Psycho Pass's good points came from somebody than Gen Urobitchtits


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post Dec 15 2015, 02:25 AM
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post Dec 15 2015, 05:43 AM
Especially the sequel. Good god, who let that hack Ubukata in and shit up what was good about the first one?

Also, that mecha show Aldnoah.Zero? Urobuchi didn't even write that one and only wrote the premise. They instead hired *that* writer of Boku no Pico to write the scripts instead. He's one of the biggest hack writers still making a living writing anime scripts today considering that his resume also included Mirai Nikki and a couple of dumb fan service shows.


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post Dec 15 2015, 03:00 PM
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I don't know about that one. All I know that Gen Urobuchi has worked on is Psycho Pass (which I like), Madoka Magicia (eh), and Saya no Uta (no).

It's the big twist of Kikokugai: The Robo Rapist Cyber Slayer, which is one of Urobuchi's visual novels and quite possibly even stupider than Saya no Uta. It's supposed to be a sci-fi/martial arts story revolving around betrayal, revenge and transhumanism, but in reality it's more like rape, mass murder and hypocricy. And more rape. Seriously, this game starts out on a rape scene that goes out of its way to be as rapey as possible, describing the functionality of the sexbots in extreme detail while the rapist talks about how he purposely designed the sexbot to have a too small vagina so that it would hurt more.
And it's all downhill from there.

Basically, what happens is that prior to the start of the story, the protagonist's sister, Ruili, is gangbanged to death by her husband and has her soul placed into five sexbots, because souls basically function like water poured into cups (which is literally how they explain it), and so Taoluo goes on a quest for revenge and to recover the fragments of her soulwater and place them into a single robot he got from the doctor who performed the initial soul uploading procedure. And of course, the robot he got is a loli, because fuck Gen Urobuchi. Now, the main villain of the story is Taoluo's former fellow disciple in the art of magic kung-fu, but he was eventually forced to get a cybernetic implant in order to keep up with society and properly serve as the next head of the underground crime syndicate, which inhibited his ability to generate the Qi necessary for the magic kung-fu. The reason the main villain sets up the whole plot is because it turns out Ruili doesn't love him since she's in love with her brother, so he went along with the whole murder his wife and leave his former best friend for dead plot so that Taoluo could murder his way through the villains' underlings and finally confront the villain in a final showdown, where he explains to Taoluo that all of this only happened because Taoluo refused to answer his sister's feelings, and that he's now going to fight Taoluo in a fight to the death so that Ruili can get off on it. Which she does. With the last remaining Riuli-bot. Which is exactly as jarringly out of place and disturbing as you imagine.

So yeah, in Urobuchi's mind, not being incestuous makes you a bad person.

And now that I think about it, Concreto Revolutio shares a lot of Kikokugai's storytelling faults. Such as the complete inability to send a message.
In Kikokugai some characters would criticize the mass usage of cybernetics without ever explaining just why it's supposed to be so bad, while they repeatedly show how much the advances in technology has done for the benefit for humanity, such as the conjoined twins who are able to live normal lives due to these cybernetics. (And are also the only likeable characters.)

Meanwhile, Concrete Revolutio just doesn't seem to know which message they are trying to say. For example, episode 7 revolves around the tsundere moe space robot Earth-chan, who is designed to respond to people whose brain send out some sort of cry for help. However, she is designed to function based on some form of objective morality and considers all forms of lies to be badwrong, and ties up a bunch of smokestacks because pollution is of course, pure evil. (Also she endangers the people inside who have to run out of the building in order to not choke to death, but who cares about them, right?)
She ends up confronting some guy called Judas whose working for some minor criminal because apparently, he secretly wanted someone to stop him so Earth-chan tells him that lying is bad, which immediately causes him to declare that he wants to be a good guy now. But then he ends up working for the criminals anyway because he has the moral backbone of a lump of jelly, and only ends up actually reforming when the Superhuman Bureau offers him the opportunity to betray his employers and rat them out.
But now Earth-chan doesn't believe him any more, so her promises not to use his powers any more and then some stupid protest shit happens and Earth-chan ends up being convinced that Judas went evil again after he uses his powers again. So then the protagonists try to stop Earth-chan by going through some completely incomprehensible arguments, like telling her that sometimes lies are good, and that she's basically just designed to get a high whenever she responds to a distress call. Never do they bother to explain that morality is a complex affair and that she shouldn't make too many immediate assumptions about the situation. And then it turns out that Judas only ended up using his powers to save someone. Also, it turns out Earth-chan just wants to be a real girl, because this show is nothing if not absolutely predictable.
Seriously, I've seen that scene several times now, and I still don't know what the fuck that scene was supposed to be about.

Also, no-one on the writing staff has ever met a real human being.
Episode six revolves around a group of four losers who get superpowers, and end up embroiled in some insipid mine control plot involving mind control chocolate or something. It's not important. But halfway through, one of them dies and they're upset for like, five seconds before they get over it. None of these people are ever relateable or interesting in the slightest.

There are also constant jarring shifts into the future where the main character went against the organization and other character went evil and all sorts of nonsense.. It's all devoid of context and they never bother to explain anything, so all it accomplishes is that it's impossible to be invested in any of it.

But the single biggest problem is just that it grossly mishandles its premise. The idea of a secret agency that manages superhumans of all sorts and tries to protect them and keep them from causing too much damage has plenty of potential, but it's not really much of a premise for a serious show. It's the kind of thing you make a goofy parody series out of that just has fun with the premise, but Concrete Revolutio just plays everything completely straight, and fails badly because of it.
It reminds me a lot of Blood Blockade Battlefront, but that series was primarily a silly show that didn't take itself all that seriously, and because of that worked pretty well, because even its serious moments were so over the top it was still enjoyable. It only went to shit once they went into total melodrama, because that just isn't something the premise could work with.

So yeah, Concrete Revolutio is just plain bad and it's probably only going to get worse from here on out.

Also, as a bonus, I found this while I was strolling through Urobuchi's works on VNDB:
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The story of a duo of Grammaton Clerics, once a mentor and pupil, now partners.

It's also his only work that doesn't involve rape. Truly this man is an author without peer.
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post Dec 17 2015, 12:26 PM
Wow, that certainly is a thing...


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