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post May 6 2015, 10:57 PM
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Gundam 00: Awakening of the Trailblazer

Premise: Two years after the end of Gundam 00, with the world finally settling into a more mild state, a mysterious entity originally resting on the planet Jupiter invades Earth. Setsuna and the rest of Celestial Being must reunite and engage this enemy and finally discover what the true nature of the Aeolia Plan was as it was hinted at by Setsuna and Tieria.

What I Expected: An awesome movie where Celestial Being explores Jupiter and the original probe Aeolia Schenberg may or may not have sent there that was apparently shown at the end of Season 2, and potentially discover what it was that Aeolia wanted on Jupiter, maybe to even colonize the planet using GN Particle technology. Of course, mecha battles with upgraded Gundams would be a plus, and maybe a chance for Celestial Being to be the heroes they always thought they were being in the eyes of the Earth forces they were fighting.

What I Got: A really bad over-long episode of the series that maybe got mixed up with a Macross script. A bunch of aliens that are basically silver Space Jell-O come to Earth and start a planet-scale invasion of Earth, the new Gundams don't even show up until halfway through the movie, including a REALLY ugly looking thing that's supposed to be Tieria's replacement for the Seravee Gundam (who then promptly "dies" AGAIN after one fight), and during the climax, Celestial Being doesn't even show up until the last twenty minutes as the Earth army gets their asses spanked pillar to post. Also, that awesome looking 00 Raiser upgrade on the cover? Doesn't even show up until the last ten minutes of the movie, if at that.

The ending is a complete non-ending. Setsuna saves the world and then goes to bugger off somewhere with the alien Space Jell-O, there's a stinger ending where Aeolia Schenberg in the past explains the Aeolia Plan's true nature, and then another one 70 years in the future where a half-alien Setsuna comes to visit an elderly blind Marina.

Conclusion: A complete failure to launch on all accounts that basically fucked up the ending to one of the better Gundam series to have come out in the last ten years. Gundam 00 was what got me back into being a Gundam fan after the travesty that was Gundam SEED Destiny, and afterward basically I was no better off than I was before. At least Gundam SEED Destiny FINAL: The Chosen Future revised the ending of the series to something that made more sense than the original!

I used to have a poster for this movie in my room until I gave it to one of my teachers for an art paper I did in a class. I'm not really keen on asking for it back.


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post May 6 2015, 11:17 PM
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Aw, that's a shame. I saw a trailer for FUNimation's DVD release of the first reason not too long ago and thought it looked kind of interesting. Based on what they showed of the series, my expectations more or less fell in line with yours. Oh well, thanks for helping me dodge a bullet there.


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post May 7 2015, 08:37 PM
Samurai Flamenco

A cute, funny show about a man without super powers who nonetheless decides to fight for justice... with office supplies and a television superhero as his mentor. Everything was alright, if not good, until the middle of the season when shit suddenly takes a dark turn and people die left and right. By the end of the season, they're fighting genocidal aliens in giant robots with a Power Rangers-esque team. All of this is played completely straight.

It would've been entertaining if it didn't take its 'plot twists' so seriously. What started off as something light-hearted and fun ended up strangely dark and heavy.

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post May 7 2015, 08:56 PM
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Samurai Flamenco

A cute, funny show about a man without super powers who nonetheless decides to fight for justice... with office supplies and a television superhero as his mentor. Everything was alright, if not good, until the middle of the season when shit suddenly takes a dark turn and people die left and right. By the end of the season, they're fighting genocidal aliens in giant robots with a Power Rangers-esque team. All of this is played completely straight.

It would've been entertaining if it didn't take its 'plot twists' so seriously. What started off as something light-hearted and fun ended up strangely dark and heavy.


so it started off as a more fun version of Defendor and then turned into the Super Sentai version of Man of Steel?

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post May 8 2015, 01:06 AM
QUOTE (Baguette @ May 7 2015, 09:37 PM) *
Samurai Flamenco

A cute, funny show about a man without super powers who nonetheless decides to fight for justice... with office supplies and a television superhero as his mentor. Everything was alright, if not good, until the middle of the season when shit suddenly takes a dark turn and people die left and right. By the end of the season, they're fighting genocidal aliens in giant robots with a Power Rangers-esque team. All of this is played completely straight.

It would've been entertaining if it didn't take its 'plot twists' so seriously. What started off as something light-hearted and fun ended up strangely dark and heavy.

Oh man, I still remember how "Guillotine Gorilla" was pretty much the only thing everyone on the anime scene could talk about halfway through the show. I didn't even watch it and I got a good earful of that for like two weeks.

Ironically, it made me want to check it out even though I had no initial interest in the series. My bucket list never seems to shrink...

QUOTE (Maniak @ May 7 2015, 09:56 PM) *
so it started off as a more fun version of Defendor and then turned into the Super Sentai version of Man of Steel?

Think of it more like anime Kick-Ass. At least it was at the start, and then it apparently wasn't in the second half.

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post Aug 8 2015, 04:59 PM
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Okay I'm probaly gonna get a lot of crap from this one but...

Durarara

Expectations: A headless rider searches for her head while living with a doctor. The doctor's friends are a former bartender with super strength and a manipulative information broker and those two really hate each other. Most of them are a part of a online group with a mysterious leader. A war with various gangs is also nigh.

Reality: High school kid with almost bare bones personality and every attempt to make him look unique seems forced, his emo best friend who doesn't do a whole lot, and big breasted girl glasses with no memorable personality get involve in a gang war that doesn't happen. The villains that get defeated are stupid and incompetent. A lot of new characters are introduced but only a few of them become important later on. Old characters that seemed important starts getting little screen time. The doctor is a neeedy son of a bitch that doesn't get called out on it. Also, the aforementioned high school kids are the ones that get the most focus.

Don't get me wrong, Durarara ain't exactly a bad show, it just could have been so much more.


I will literally fight anyone who says Mikado has a barebones personality, though I can understand how you would feel that way if you've only seen Season 1. Still, I wouldn't call a kid who wants to seek out an extraordinary life and struggles with the conflict between his desire and own ordinariness boring. Since Season 2 has started, I'd think you'd revise your opinion after watching it.

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post Aug 10 2015, 04:18 PM
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I will literally fight anyone who says Mikado has a barebones personality, though I can understand how you would feel that way if you've only seen Season 1. Still, I wouldn't call a kid who wants to seek out an extraordinary life and struggles with the conflict between his desire and own ordinariness boring. Since Season 2 has started, I'd think you'd revise your opinion after watching it.


Yeah, Mikado starts out kinda boring, but keep watching. Having read most of the light novels, he went from milquetoast dull to a creepy yet badass crossover of Lelouch Lamperouge meets 8chan.


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post Sep 1 2015, 05:19 AM
I wasn't impress with the pen stabbing scene but I was impressed when he set that dude on fire so I will give him that.


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post Sep 1 2015, 08:17 AM
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time could have been cool if it wasn't completely dull and nonsensical.


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post Sep 1 2015, 09:58 AM
Apollo Justice:Ace Attorney

Expectations:A brand new cast of characters not related to the first 3 games with new stories and a protagonist with a different personality

What I got:A story revolving around a disbarred Phoenix who made a complete 180 after becoming stupid by accepting evidence from a kid he has never meant and the 'new' protagonist is Phoenix Wright Lite


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post Sep 1 2015, 11:17 AM
Okay, I've spent LOTS of time with Masters of the Universe/50 Shades, so please excuse my belief it could have been interesting.

Not the romance and sexuality part, there are more than enough of those books out there. But the abusive parts of the story have potential. A girl who's the perfectly written "prey", an abuser who has everything going for him...the story could have started out with her getting sucked in, and finally she realizes she needs to go, and then it could have turned into-
okay, I just realized what I want, I want the trilogy to basically be a super duper dramatic episode of some show on Investigation Discovery. Carry on.


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post Sep 1 2015, 12:45 PM
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Apollo Justice:Ace Attorney

Expectations:A brand new cast of characters not related to the first 3 games with new stories and a protagonist with a different personality

What I got:A story revolving around a disbarred Phoenix who made a complete 180 after becoming stupid by accepting evidence from a kid he has never meant and the 'new' protagonist is Phoenix Wright Lite


I don't want to make this thread into the "Joan Argues with Everyone's Opinion," but bruh.


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post Sep 1 2015, 01:34 PM
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I don't want to make this thread into the "Joan Argues with Everyone's Opinion," but bruh.


Apollo Justice is an 80's action movie name, not a lawyer name.

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post Sep 1 2015, 05:25 PM
Oh shit just realized that I posted this in the anime forum I really want to apologize since I must of not been paying attention to what I have been posting this in but my opinion is still the same.


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post Sep 2 2015, 02:57 AM
Eh that's okay there are some posts here that's about cartoon anyway.


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post Sep 2 2015, 06:09 AM
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Oh shit just realized that I posted this in the anime forum I really want to apologize since I must of not been paying attention to what I have been posting this in but my opinion is still the same.

The Ace Attourney series is practically an anime VN anyway, so whatever.

Also, fuck Apollo Justice. I don't mind the character in Dual Destinies, but I want my AA game to contain Phoenix Wright, not retarded dickhead hobo Phoenix and his oedipal carbon copy with no social skills.

Seriously though, Dual Destinies actually makes Apollo's relationship to his mom even creepier. I know the greek Gods are known for incest, but DAMN.


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post Sep 2 2015, 01:05 PM
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The Ace Attourney series is practically an anime VN anyway, so whatever.

Also, fuck Apollo Justice. I don't mind the character in Dual Destinies, but I want my AA game to contain Phoenix Wright, not retarded dickhead hobo Phoenix and his oedipal carbon copy with no social skills.

Seriously though, Dual Destinies actually makes Apollo's relationship to his mom even creepier. I know the greek Gods are known for incest, but DAMN.


How...? His mom was literally never brought up. Unless you're talking about Juniper, in which case, she has an unrequited crush on him and you're probably reading too much into it. And I liked hobo!Phoenix, it was an interesting change of pace.

And I'd argue that Apollo is pretty different from Phoenix, but that'd get pretty lengthy. It's funny though since most people disliked Apollo when he came out, but after Dual Destinies he was voted #1 on the popularity polls.

And anyways, doesn't Jojo's Bizarre Adventure kind of do the same thing anyways with switching the main characters?


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post Sep 2 2015, 01:23 PM
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How...? His mom was literally never brought up.

Apollo got all hot and bothered from seeing Juniper dress up as his mother.

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post Sep 2 2015, 04:29 PM
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And anyways, doesn't Jojo's Bizarre Adventure kind of do the same thing anyways with switching the main characters?[/color]

No because they don't do a complete 180 on previous protagonists and the new Jojos always had new personalities that are completely different than the other Jojos


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post Sep 2 2015, 05:44 PM
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Apollo got all hot and bothered from seeing Juniper dress up as his mother.


what. All he did was SMILE at her while she was on stage.

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No because they don't do a complete 180 on previous protagonists and the new Jojos always had new personalities that are completely different than the other Jojos


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